X-OldHeader: From allen.zimmermann@gte.net-DeleteThis.com Thu Oct 23 21:41:43 2003 Return-Path: <allen.zimmermann@gte.net-DeleteThis.com> Received: from opus.labs.agilent.com (root@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com [130.29.244.179]) by jr.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_25183+JAGae58098)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id VAA23484 for <wind_talk_ls@jr.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas1x.net.europe.agilent.com (msgbas1.net.europe.agilent.com [192.25.19.80]) by opus.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_25183+JAGae58098)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id VAA03972 for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out004.verizon.net (out004pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.142]) by msgbas1x.net.europe.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCF1AEE for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:41:40 +0200 (METDST) Received: from computer ([68.130.113.42]) by out004.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20031024044136.XVLO25700.out004.verizon.net@computer> for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:41:36 -0500 Message-ID: <003401c399e9$d8d0d420$2a718244@computer> From: "Allen H Zimmermann" <allen.zimmermann@gte.net-DeleteThis.com> To: <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com> References: <60558DF0559CBB4C9DF1B6C33887DF9A03EABC89@etp-cin-us-ex02.etp1.com-DeleteThis.com> Subject: Re: Important notice re your iWindsurf account Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:46:50 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out004.verizon.net from [68.130.113.42] at Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:41:35 -0500
25 cents a day for up to the minute info on the thing most of you like to do
more than anything. How much would you pay for one good day of powder??
This service is a bargain. Heck, I pay even more because I have a pager.
I'm sure many of you remember the days before all this. How many times did
you get skunked? How often do you get skunked now?? I rest my case.
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From: "Van Putten, Dirk [ETP/SAN]" <Dvanputten@lodanwest.com-DeleteThis.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list WIND_TALK"
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Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: FW: Important notice re your iWindsurf account
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> Hello All:
>
> The way I look at it, people pay 40 -50 dollars a month for television.
> (40/month = $480/year!) That is one way communication like iwindsurf.
Also,
> people pay that much for cell phone use. Now think about the economy of
> scale. Cable and TV companies have millions of subscribers yet we pay more
> for them than we pay for iwindsurf service.
>
> For the service and information we get from iwindsurf, $89/year is a great
> deal. I don't see any cell phone towers out on a small pole in the middle
of
> the channel at 3rd Ave. in San Fran bay getting beat up by the elements.
>
> I think iwindsurf does an excellent job . And they do provide some swell
> model maps, surface temperatures, etc.
>
> Regards, Dirk van Putten
>
> Here is feedback directly from iwindsurf:
>
> Alas, it is difficult to respond to all listserv type groups. We don't
have
> the manpower as we are a lean company. Indeed it does cost money to run
any
> business, ours included -- and occasionally price increases are
necessary -
> as with any other business. Our rate for the web has been $69/year (FX)
for
> years. But, we did need to raise it to $89 for 2003 to cover our costs. No
> plans to raise it again, and no recent history of having raised it.
>
> And we have offered a *substantial* increase in service for 2003: many
major
> prime wind sensors in the SF Bay area and beyond. No question 2003 has
been
> a major year where one cannot honestly say that there was not an increase
in
> service to go along with the increase in price. (Crissy Field Anita Rock,
> Sherman Island Channel, Third Avenue Channel, and Treasure Island were all
> added late in 2002 and 2003 is the first full season to see members enjoy
> these top-notch sensors.) So we are covered in that way, although folks
> still will complain, and that is their right, as no one enjoys price
> increases. Hopefully on occasion, our members weigh in for us and set the
> record straight. ;)
>
> Some folks had the impression that we had raised our rates the year before
> (2002), but this is not true. This is what you call the downside of
offering
> special promotions. When you offer $20 OFF for a limited time (such as we
> have done via month-long email promotions from time to time), people
> remember that they paid $49 but forget that the real rate was $69. So
later
> on they just think the price was increased when they then need to pay the
> regular rate. (Sigh.) Oh well, it's not possible to inform everyone's
> understanding of everything, I guess.
>
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> <DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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> class=456411923-23102003>Hello All:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN
> class=456411923-23102003></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The
> way I look at it, people pay 40 -50 dollars a month for television.
(40/month =
> $480/year!) That is one way communication like iwindsu<SPAN
> class=456411923-23102003>r</SPAN>f. Also, people pay that much for cell
phone
> use. Now think about the economy of scale. Cable and TV companies
have
> millions of subscribers yet we pay more for them<SPAN
> class=456411923-23102003> than we pay for iwindsurf service.</SPAN>
> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>For
> the service and information we get from iwindsurf, $89/year is a great
deal. I
> don't see any cell phone towers out on a small pole in the middle of the
channel
> at 3rd Ave. in San Fran bay getting beat up by the
> elements.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT
> size=2>I think <SPAN class=456411923-23102003>iwindsurf does</SPAN>
an
> excellent job<SPAN class=456411923-23102003> . And they do provide
> some swell model maps, surface temperatures,
> etc. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
> class=713390223-23102003><SPAN class=456411923-23102003> </SPAN><SPAN
> class=456411923-23102003> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
> class=713390223-23102003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT
> size=2>Regards, Dirk<SPAN class=456411923-23102003> van
> Putten </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT
> size=2><SPAN
> class=456411923-23102003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT
> size=2><SPAN
class=456411923-23102003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
> class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
> class=456411923-23102003>Here is feedback directly from
> iwindsurf:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV><SPAN class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Alas, it is difficult to respond to all listserv type groups. We
don't
> have the manpower as we are a lean company. Indeed it does cost money to
run
> any business, ours included -- and occasionally price increases are
necessary
> - as with any other business. O</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
> class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>ur rate
for the
> web has been $69/year (FX) for years. But, we did need to raise it to
$89 for
> 2003 to cover our costs. No plans to raise it again, and no recent
history of
> having raised it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>And
> we have offered a *substantial* increase in service for 2003: many major
prime
> wind sensors in the SF Bay area and beyond. No question 2003 has been a
major
> year where one cannot honestly say that there was not an increase in
service
> to go along with the increase in price. (Crissy Field Anita Rock,
Sherman
> Island Channel, Third Avenue Channel, and Treasure Island were all added
late
> in 2002 and 2003 is the first full season to see members enjoy these
top-notch
> sensors.) So we are covered in that way, although folks still will
complain,
> and that is their right, as no one enjoys price increases. Hopefully on
> occasion, our members weigh in for us and set the record straight.
> ;)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Some
> folks had the impression that we had raised our rates the year before
(2002),
> but this is not true. This is what you call the downside of offering
special
> promotions. When you offer $20 OFF for a limited time (such as we have
done
> via month-long email promotions from time to time), people remember that
they
> paid $49 but forget that the real rate was $69. So later on they just
think
> the price was increased when they then need to pay the regular rate.
(Sigh.)
> Oh well, it's not possible to inform everyone's understanding of
> everything, I guess.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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