X-OldHeader: From Dvanputten@lodanwest.com-DeleteThis.com Thu Oct 23 16:25:28 2003 Return-Path: <Dvanputten@lodanwest.com-DeleteThis.com> Received: from opus.labs.agilent.com (root@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com [130.29.244.179]) by jr.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_25183+JAGae58098)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id QAA13236 for <wind_talk_ls@jr.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas2x.net.asiapac.agilent.com ([192.168.216.27]) by opus.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_25183+JAGae58098)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id QAA07829 for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxssmtpo3.nasmtpout.emrsn.com (mxssmtpo3.nasmtpout.emrsn.com [67.96.16.11]) by msgbas2x.net.asiapac.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DBF420 for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:25:24 +0800 (SGP) Received: from ets-srvr08.emrsn.net ([65.90.82.19]) by mxssmtpo3.nasmtpout.emrsn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:29:43 -0400 Received: from mxsnaim1.emrsn.net ([65.90.82.19]) by 65.90.82.89 with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:28:29 -0400 Received: by mxsnaim1.emrsn.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <VJN28372>; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:25:17 -0400 Message-ID: <60558DF0559CBB4C9DF1B6C33887DF9A03EABC89@etp-cin-us-ex02.etp1.com-DeleteThis.com> From: "Van Putten, Dirk [ETP/SAN]" <Dvanputten@lodanwest.com-DeleteThis.com> To: "'wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com'" <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com> Subject: FW: Important notice re your iWindsurf account Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:25:14 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2003 23:29:43.0750 (UTC) FILETIME=[89DF7E60:01C399BD]
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Hello All:
The way I look at it, people pay 40 -50 dollars a month for television.
(40/month = $480/year!) That is one way communication like iwindsurf. Also,
people pay that much for cell phone use. Now think about the economy of
scale. Cable and TV companies have millions of subscribers yet we pay more
for them than we pay for iwindsurf service.
For the service and information we get from iwindsurf, $89/year is a great
deal. I don't see any cell phone towers out on a small pole in the middle of
the channel at 3rd Ave. in San Fran bay getting beat up by the elements.
I think iwindsurf does an excellent job . And they do provide some swell
model maps, surface temperatures, etc.
Regards, Dirk van Putten
Here is feedback directly from iwindsurf:
Alas, it is difficult to respond to all listserv type groups. We don't have
the manpower as we are a lean company. Indeed it does cost money to run any
business, ours included -- and occasionally price increases are necessary -
as with any other business. Our rate for the web has been $69/year (FX) for
years. But, we did need to raise it to $89 for 2003 to cover our costs. No
plans to raise it again, and no recent history of having raised it.
And we have offered a *substantial* increase in service for 2003: many major
prime wind sensors in the SF Bay area and beyond. No question 2003 has been
a major year where one cannot honestly say that there was not an increase in
service to go along with the increase in price. (Crissy Field Anita Rock,
Sherman Island Channel, Third Avenue Channel, and Treasure Island were all
added late in 2002 and 2003 is the first full season to see members enjoy
these top-notch sensors.) So we are covered in that way, although folks
still will complain, and that is their right, as no one enjoys price
increases. Hopefully on occasion, our members weigh in for us and set the
record straight. ;)
Some folks had the impression that we had raised our rates the year before
(2002), but this is not true. This is what you call the downside of offering
special promotions. When you offer $20 OFF for a limited time (such as we
have done via month-long email promotions from time to time), people
remember that they paid $49 but forget that the real rate was $69. So later
on they just think the price was increased when they then need to pay the
regular rate. (Sigh.) Oh well, it's not possible to inform everyone's
understanding of everything, I guess.
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<DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
way I look at it, people pay 40 -50 dollars a month for television. (40/month =
$480/year!) That is one way communication like iwindsu<SPAN
class=456411923-23102003>r</SPAN>f. Also, people pay that much for cell phone
use. Now think about the economy of scale. Cable and TV companies have
millions of subscribers yet we pay more for them<SPAN
class=456411923-23102003> than we pay for iwindsurf service.</SPAN>
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>For
the service and information we get from iwindsurf, $89/year is a great deal. I
don't see any cell phone towers out on a small pole in the middle of the channel
at 3rd Ave. in San Fran bay getting beat up by the
elements.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2>I think <SPAN class=456411923-23102003>iwindsurf does</SPAN> an
excellent job<SPAN class=456411923-23102003> . And they do provide
some swell model maps, surface temperatures,
etc. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=713390223-23102003><SPAN class=456411923-23102003> </SPAN><SPAN
class=456411923-23102003> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
class=713390223-23102003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2>Regards, Dirk<SPAN class=456411923-23102003> van
Putten </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
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<DIV><SPAN class=713390223-23102003><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
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class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=456411923-23102003>Here is feedback directly from
iwindsurf:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Alas, it is difficult to respond to all listserv type groups. We don't
have the manpower as we are a lean company. Indeed it does cost money to run
any business, ours included -- and occasionally price increases are necessary
- as with any other business. O</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>ur rate for the
web has been $69/year (FX) for years. But, we did need to raise it to $89 for
2003 to cover our costs. No plans to raise it again, and no recent history of
having raised it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>And
we have offered a *substantial* increase in service for 2003: many major prime
wind sensors in the SF Bay area and beyond. No question 2003 has been a major
year where one cannot honestly say that there was not an increase in service
to go along with the increase in price. (Crissy Field Anita Rock, Sherman
Island Channel, Third Avenue Channel, and Treasure Island were all added late
in 2002 and 2003 is the first full season to see members enjoy these top-notch
sensors.) So we are covered in that way, although folks still will complain,
and that is their right, as no one enjoys price increases. Hopefully on
occasion, our members weigh in for us and set the record straight.
;)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=200484222-23102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Some
folks had the impression that we had raised our rates the year before (2002),
but this is not true. This is what you call the downside of offering special
promotions. When you offer $20 OFF for a limited time (such as we have done
via month-long email promotions from time to time), people remember that they
paid $49 but forget that the real rate was $69. So later on they just think
the price was increased when they then need to pay the regular rate. (Sigh.)
Oh well, it's not possible to inform everyone's understanding of
everything, I guess.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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