RE: Wave rules

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Date: Thu Aug 17 2000 - 12:07:27 PDT


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this may be a better "rule":
if heading out and planing, avoid the surfer. If you are heading out and
slogging, and there's not a lot you can do, the surfer should avoid you.

That starboard stuff has no value in the waves and should be left to flatwater
sailing. That would mean at port tack (or whatever the opposite tack to here
is) wavesailng the outbound "rights" would be offset by the starboard wavesailor
"rights", and chaos would ensue. In my experiences at 3 port places, the rule
is the same; avoid the guy on the wave if you can.

"Chilton, Owain (GEIO)" <Owain.Chilton@geio.ge.com-DeleteThis> on 08/17/2000 09:32:21 AM

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Subject: RE: Wave rules

The rule is that the person going out has right of way. This is a surfing
rule. For windsurfing, in the prevailing conditions in NorCal, the person
going out has double rights because they are on starboard tack. Having said
that, it is polite to try and keep out of the way of someone who is surfing
in on a wave. So if you are planing, bear off or head up so as not to impede
the progress of the surfer. If you are heading out and slogging, there's not
a lot you can do, so the surfer should avoid you.

Cheers.....Owain.

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Subject: RE: Wave rules

1. Going out has right of way over someone coming in. (when coming in, you
have much more manueverability and less risk of getting munched than someone
going out, so it's polite to give way)

I do not think this is true, and recall this same discussion about a year
ago.
If a sailor on a wave is going down the line, and the outbound sailor cuts
off
his down the line progress, ending the wave, the outbound sailor has
barneyed.

If the premise of wavesailing is to ride waves, then the surf rules apply.
The
surf rule is simple; avoid the person on the wave. They have enough to deal
with already, and a person going out has more degrees of freedom than the
person
on a wave whose ideal path is dictated by the wave (and the kelp in late
summer). the sailor going out can sail off the wind, pinch upwind, stall,
chicken jibe, tack and do whatever else is possible to avoid the person
already
on the wave.



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