Re: People's Court, Please?

From: Geoffrey Boehm (Geoffrey.Boehm@wj.com-DeleteThis)
Date: Wed Jun 30 1999 - 15:11:30 PDT 

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From: Geoffrey.Boehm@wj.com-DeleteThis (Geoffrey Boehm)
Subject: Re: People's Court, Please?
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     I myself am confused often as to the proper etiquette on a wave. Here
     is my opinion - probably wrong, but at least it ought to open up
     discussions of common misconceptions, since it will surely promote
     some:
     
     I think sailor R is correct. To my mind, riding a swell upwind/left is
     not really in the same cateogory as going down the line, or to put it
     another way, the guy going left wasn't really riding the wave. The
     down the line guy is the only one considered to be truly riding it. In
     that sense, R violated L's right of way, since it was L's wave. All of
     this is true only if there is a reasonable chance of riding Right.
     
     In my opinion, you only go left when there isn't a realistic option to
     go to the right. It sounds like L is claiming that is the case, so
     since the swell is breaking left, it is his wave. But if the
     subsequent sequence indicates, at is seems to here, that right was a
     real option, it thus takes precedence over left. Thus, it's R's wave.
     
     R should be able to come as close to L as he is competent to do.
     Unless he is really mediocre, and depending on the difficulty of the
     wave, 15 feet sounds like plenty of room. If L gets freaked out,
     that's the price of confronting someone else with the unexpected. It's
     pretty hard to judge if R came too close without being there, but L
     should expect a little bit of rudeness, especially since he is forcing
     the less competent L to cope with something that is probably
     unexpected.
     
     This really sounds like L is trying to steal the wave out from R.
     
     Frankly - I'm not much interested in pushing my view - I'm more
     interested in finding out what's wrong with it.
     
     

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Subject: People's Court, Please?
Author: A M <asicenger@hotmail.com-DeleteThis> at INTERNET
Date: 6/30/99 2:38 PM

The following happened to some guys I know at Waddel recently.
     
Two sailors, L and R, simultaneously picked up a nice swell.
They were 50 yds apart at this point.
Sailor L began to ride it left, upwind. Sailor R, who had
been looking upwind to acquire the swell, turned to go
down the line. As he did he saw sailor L riding the wave
left, and he looped below Sailor L, came back up the face,
and rode as far as he could down the line. R came to about
15 ft of L as he crossed under L.
     
Sailor L also turned down the line, and rode out the wave without
further incident.
     
Sailor L is the better sailor by far.
     
In a subsequent beachside discussion, L claimed to be an aggrieved
party because:
     
1) "These waves are predominantly left"
2) "I was in a more critical section."
3) "You came too close to me."
     
Sailor R countered:
     
1) "If the wave was a left and you had a critical section, why
did you give it up and go down the line too?"
2) "As the upwind rider you should let a down the line guy go
by and not make a fuss about it."
3) I gave you enough room.
     
Who's right, if anybody? Is crossing under as R did a no-no?
     
Thanks,
Todd B.
     
     
     
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