Re: Re[2]: Airport expansion and Coyote

From: gandolf@us.ibm.com-DeleteThis
Date: Thu Feb 25 1999 - 07:34:50 PST

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Matt,

I'd be interested in seeing the pictures. Would you please send them to
"gandolf@us.ibm.com-DeleteThis"

Thanks --> Greg

Matt Chapman <mchapman@cupertino.synopsys.com-DeleteThis> on 02/23/99 08:45:57 AM

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cc: (bcc: Greg Gavalakis/Mountain View/IBM)
Subject: Re[2]: Airport expansion and Coyote

>I took the pictures published in the Murky a few months ago and plotted
>them on my Bay map. The south end of the proposed runway is right on
>the normal sailing path from Coyote, 1.5 or 2 miles out. The runway
>lights (and wind vortices thrown by landing jets) would extend another
>half mile downwind, effectively cutting Coyote off from the channel for
>anyone not on a race board.
>
>Ken Poulton
>poulton@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis
>
>"Everyone has a plan - until they get punched in the face."
> -- Mohammed Ali

Ken's right. I made some composite jpegs of the two proposed SFO
runway expansions (using the cargill-ponds.gif graphic from the online
paper) overlayed on a satellite photo of the current SFO/Coyote area.

Assuming the graphic from the paper is at least somewhat accurate, I
think the composites provide a decent picture of the sailing area that
would remain if the runways go in. Some things to note:

o The reach to the runway appears to be less than 1.5 miles for
   both the one- and two-intersection proposals. Depending on the
   height of the runways above the water (downwind turbulence),
   the effective sailing area could be substantially less.

o There could be some interesting reverse currents created by the
new mini-bay the main runway would form.

I don't think the new runways would be the death of Coyote (the way
the buildings at 101 Airport Blvd might be) but the character of the
park would certainly change (from B&J to flat-water cruising.)

The jpegs are too large to post to wind_talk. If anyone's interested,
send mail and I'll forward them directly to you. (The uuencoded zip
file is 335K.)

- Matt

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