Re: Possible NEW ACCESS Upwind Of 3RD AVENUE

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Date: Sat Oct 31 1998 - 15:34:47 PST

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Subject: Re: Possible NEW ACCESS Upwind Of 3RD AVENUE
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This is a reply to Ken Poulton's e-mail:
   Yes, I'd say it is quite an opportunity.
   Randy Anderson and I are the only windsurfers who have copies of the
Draft report. They are also available for public review at the reference
desks of the following San Mateo City libraries: (1) Main Library, 55
West 3rd Avenue (2) Hillsdale Branch, 205 West Hillsdale Avenue (3)
Marina Branch, 1530 Susan Court.
   The plans themselves are so conceptual in nature right now, that I
would think looking at a good map of the area (AAA map for example)
gives as good a picture as any. The Report itself covers everything from
Coyote Point harbor all the way to the Foster City city line. It talks
about wildlife, hydrology, etc. and mentions possible uses for the many
shoreline parks of San Mateo.
    About Seal Point: The northern shore would get good side-shore winds
for launching. The whitecaps are visible all around the Seal Point area
every good day that I drive past the landfill hill to go sailing at 3rd
Avenue. I have sailed right off of Seal Point for a good while after
launching from 3rd Avenue and sailing upwind. Seemed like a good place
to me. I think the mud is the same as at Coyote or at 3rd Avenue. Off of
the northern shoreline, I don't think the mud would be a problem except
at super low-tide. And outside in the channel, both Randy and John
Miller (ASD) have agreed that the wind is a little better than out from
3rd Ave, and John swears that the best swells in the area are off from
Seal Point. When the ASD crew do their downwinders from Coyote Point,
this is the place they enjoy the most.
   The pages that I referred to in my previous e-mail refer to a plan
from 1993 calling for a parking lot on the top of the hill and some
nature trails which BCDC required in order to officially close the
landfill site. They wanted some access. Those are not official plans,
this is all in the planning stage. So, I guess now's the time to give
input and to try to make this place as windsurfing friendly as possible.
It could be just a place to go when 3rd is packed (because of the walk
down the hill which would take maybe about a minute carrying your gear,
or less, I haven't tried it), or it could be a site of choice for many
folks. It could turn out to be THE site for many... I can't tell for
sure. Maybe it depends on what we make of it. Either way--we'd have
another option for parking, rigging, and going sailing. Something that
probably won't happen again for a long, long time!
   I'm going to head off and try to find a scanner right now, and scan a
few key pages from the Report. It's preliminary, so there's nothing
that's been decided yet. Hopefully the pages could be mildly helpful.
I'll post the pages here as soon as I get them.
   NOTE: Mike Godsey has just posted the alert on the Call of the Wind
Baja Page!

----Original Message Follows----
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:43:35 -0800
From: Ken Poulton <>
To: Multiple recipients of list <>
Subject: Re: Possible NEW ACCESS Upwind Of 3RD AVENUE

> It is not very often that we get a chance to help design a NEW
> windsurfing site in the Bay. We have that chance right now!

Sounds like quite an opportunity.

Is there any place where the current planning information is on line,
especially maps?

Ken Poulton

"I'd like to answer this question, if I may, in two ways. Firstly, in
my normal voice, and then in a kind of silly, high-pitched whine."
                                        -- Monty Python

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