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I think Ed did not mean to forbid non jibers to go learn at third.
The original poster said that it was his second time at third, he
could not jibe, jumped a lot and crashed a lot in the channel. He had
a great time, fine.
I think Ed just meant that going out and enjoying the channel on a
strong ebb / wind at third requires rescue gear, a sailing buddy and
some getting used to.
It is a long way to the shore, very rough, and any break down or
board separation is unforgiving. You don't want to spend the night on
one of the barges anchored outside.
It is the same question as why should you know how to jibe to go to
Waddell. I'd argue that jibing outside waddell is easier than in the
channel at third. The point is the jibing level ensures that the rest
of the experience is there too.
-Francois
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