Received: from hplms26.hpl.hp.com by opus.hpl.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.8/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1) id AA06951; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:20:31 -0700 Return-Path: <westes@usc.com-DeleteThis> Received: from uucp5.netcom.com by hplms26.hpl.hp.com with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1S) id AA09031; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:20:37 -0700 Received: from localhost by netcomsv.netcom.com with UUCP (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id OAA19097; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:56:17 -0700 Received: by usc.com (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA01339; Tue, 5 Jul 94 14:32:55 -0700 From: Will Estes <westes@usc.com-DeleteThis> Message-Id: <9407052132.AA01339@usc.com-DeleteThis> Subject: Re: Re: Today at San Luis (fwd) To: kirk@hpmsd3.sj.hp.com-DeleteThis (Kirk Lindstrom) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis (Windsurfing Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9407052057.AA17447@hpmsd3.sj.hp.com-DeleteThis> from "Kirk Lindstrom" at Jul 5, 94 01:57:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2449
'Kirk Lindstrom says:'
> maybe the girls were on epoxy boards rather than the glass boards I
> usually see many of the people at SLR sailing. I've been the fastest
> on the lake there on a few occasions and other times there were some
> VERY fast sailors. You really need to compare speed against a know
> as Ken and I do.
Fair enough. But the only real test that counts for anything is a radar
gun. And since I don't have that, I have to go by subjective impressions.
You raise good points that there are a lot of variables in board and fin
selection that I did not account for. But all I am saying is that given a
constant board and fin, with well-known characteristics to me, the sail was
dramatically slower than what I am used to sailing.
Let me try a different take on this: I was on a sail yesterday that is designed
as something like a bump-and-jump sail. It was something between a surf and
a race sail. And all I'm trying to say is that this sail was not as fast
as a race sail.
That's not a spectacular claim, really. A bump-n-jump sail isn't
supposed to be as fast as a race sail, by design. If I took a Neil Pryde
Wave sail and made the claim that it was a lot slower than my World Cup
Race Mk V, would that surprise anyone? Would you say "well, it might have
been your board or your fin?" The Northwave Tri-Lite is a very nice sail;
I'm just pointing out that it doesn't meet my need for speed, and it isn't
fast by comparison to a good race sail. By comparison, I love my Northwave
Race sails.
> > The problem with the Tri-Lites was that it has a surfy-bottom, so it was
> > impossible to close the gap, and it is also a plastic instead of monofilm
> > interior panel (made to be indestructable rather than the fastest thing on
> > the water).
> >
> > I guess I would summarize it by saying that when the board and fin are
> > well-known to you, you instinctively know from the force you are feeling on
> > the sail how fast you should be going. I was often way-powered yesterday,
> > but the force on the sail just wasn't translating to scary-fast speed.
> fin selection?
I was afraid you would ask that. It was a Boyd bump-n-jump. But, again,
that's the find I always use on the Hip-Hop, and I have been at the Forebay
on that board and fin with a 4.5 Race sail, and the difference was
dramatic.
-- Thanks, Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com-DeleteThis U.S. Computer Saratoga, CA 95070
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