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From: edscott@best.com-DeleteThis.com Subject: Re: Flying Tigers Access
Date: July 24, 2004 5:39:09 PM PDT To: Eyes4Hire@aol.com-DeleteThis.com
Peter-
The current launch is adequate, but not optimal, on low-tide, it's
undoable. I used to be a regular there and Oyster in the early/mid
90's, but have since moved on. On a recent visit and session there,
it looks like the best place to have a launch is behind the SF
recycling plant at the North East point that sticks out, that will
be where it's doable on all tides and there's no wind-shadow there.
You just need a path across the rip-rap down to the shore. The next
best launch would be somewhere on the Genentech property, but that's
mostly in a wind-shadow. The point behind the recycling plant is
out in the wind, but is down the path aways. I'm surprised we
didn't push for access when that path was built, perhaps we can do
so now? At least there's a few parking spaces there, but you still
have to haul your equipment in.
FYI, great flat-water site when the wind has a little sw to it, the
wind blasts through the gap there. The flag on top of the hotel
east of 101 just after the 380 junction is a great tell-tale. Oh,
and the off-shore thing is no joke. A guy died there in 1994 (?)
when the wind shut down, he refused help and couldn't get back by
himself. They found his body washed up in Alameda somewhere.
I don't know any current SoSF residents, but if you e-mail me
offline I can give you the list of regulars that used to hang out
there. Most are at Third now. I used to know a regular who lived
in the marina at Oyster who might still live in the area.
-Ed
On Jul 23, 2004, at 3:09 PM, Eyes4Hire@aol.com-DeleteThis.com wrote:
> In a message dated 7/22/2004 5:51:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, >
jondrums@hotmail.com-DeleteThis.com writes: > >> I've only heard of this launch.
I would love to sail there, but I > don't > know how to get there
and when it might be good. any tips? >> > > The site is at the end
of Haskins Way in South San Francisco. It is > a fun spot that can
blow when most other areas are shut down. It is > not sailable at
very low tides and there are some hazard such as > shopping carts.
The best thing to do at a site like this is to stop > by during a
very low tide just so that you can see where the > obstacles are and
have a better idea of where they are and how much > more water would
be needed to either sail over or around them. > > Because it is
strong offshore, it is for advanced sailors only. It > usually will
require a smaller sail if it is going off but a little > more fin or
board might be wise in order to make it back without a > fight (not
as hard to handle because the swell is small). If > someone ran
into trouble, they might have to come in downwind of SFO > (Embassy
Suites or Coyote) or even land on the SFO property in a > dire
emergency (violating a security zone that extends around the >
runways. We had one fatality about 10 years ago when a beginner >
launched into the area from Oyster Point nearby and couldn't make it
> back. He declined assistance from other windsurfers and said he >
would sail to Coyote Point. He was wearing a shorty wetsuit and >
fell victim to exposure. Not trying to be a downer, but the buddy >
system is a good call there and dress warm. > > Peter > > [HTML
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