X-OldHeader: From KirkLindstrom@ix.netcom.com-DeleteThis.com Wed Mar 12 10:00:38 2003 Return-Path: <KirkLindstrom@ix.netcom.com-DeleteThis.com> Received: from opus.labs.agilent.com (root@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com [130.29.244.179]) by jr.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id KAA27956 for <wind_talk_ls@jr.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from msgbas1x.net.europe.agilent.com (msgbas1.net.europe.agilent.com [192.25.19.80]) by opus.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id KAA14244 for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by msgbas1x.net.europe.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980C9924 for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:00:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from user-vcaumcv.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.89.159] helo=ix.netcom.com) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18tAWk-00036b-00 for wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:00:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3E6F7689.5060304@ix.netcom.com-DeleteThis.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:03:53 -0800 From: Kirk Lindstrom <KirkLindstrom@ix.netcom.com-DeleteThis.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com Subject: Re: carbon booms References: <20030312174729.26373.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com-DeleteThis.com>
I have broken over 10 Fibersnaps since 1990... probably closing in
on 15 now.
I have one for each major sail I use since my sails are 1m apart and
I don't want to mess with all the time to get things adjusted to
change. Also, it makes the decision to change to a different sail
easier if I don't have to deal with readjusting booms.
With that said, It takes more elapsed time to get the 60 or so 1.5
to 2 hr sessions on a Fibersnap before they snap. Thus, I am almost
always out of warranty. I used to take them to ASD to get them sent
back for repair but now they want me to handle this... what a pain!
Fiberspar charges $150 but they are not too quick to reply and tell
me if I can get the Al FE's replaced with the Carbon FEs..
My "unofficial" recordkeeping says the new, Carbon FEs on Fibersnaps
last about the same time for me as did the Al ones, but the failures
were not "catastropic" so I could sail in without lashing stuff...
It cracked, I heard it and I could sail in and change booms.
I have two broken Fibersnaps that I am wondering if I should mail in
at a cost of $300 and take a chance on what FE I get. I'd love to
get one of those new frontends that I've seen for HPL (I think) that
seem to have a better stress reduction design.
Fibersnap has been having this "temporary problem" for well over a
decade and I think they find it easier to keep the warranty period
short. How many sail with a single boom and get 60 days in a season
AND weigh over 200 lbs? I sailed 70 to 90 days a season (the past
few) and break a boom or two each season. I weigh 225# now but have
been heavier...
So... any suggestions? Should I just mail in my arms for a new FE?
Can they be mailed vis UPS just taped together?
Kirk
bob prevett wrote:
>>What kind of experiences have people had with the >>carbon
Hawaiian Proline and Fiberspar booms? >> >> > >I would stay away
from the Fiberspar booms. As >recently as 2 years ago, the
Fiberspar carbon front >ends develop cracks, even during the first
season. I >think the stiff front end epoxied onto the stiff boom
>arms is just too much stress for the front end to >handle over the
long term. Replacing these front ends >is a tough job, and
expensive; I went through it once. > Also, the twist lock back-ends
wear out easily; not >too tough to replace, though. > >I switched
to a Chinook carbon boom with the plastic >front end. The boom is
solid, not quite as stiff as >the Fiberspar, but still very good.
The back end is a >rugged pin design that won't wear out. The front
end >is easily replaced if any cracks develop ( just 4 >screws ).
As with the aluminum Chinoooks, the >plastic front ends are a likely
source of boom >failure. However, the key is to periodically
inspect >the front end for cracking and replace proactively >before
a failure on the water. This is my third >season on the Chinook,
and no problems yet; still have >the original front end. It has
held upmuch better >than the Fiberspar did. > >My $0.02 > >BobP >
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