RE: Safety Fin

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Date: Wed Sep 18 2002 - 16:04:42 PDT

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From: daddy@ilovemaggie.co.uk-DeleteThis.com
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:04:42 +0100 (BST)
To: wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com
Subject: RE: Safety Fin

like the net I use to scoop up the dead fish out of my tank.

-----Original Message----- From : Topher Gayle
<surfnsuds@earthlink.net-DeleteThis.com> To : Multiple recipients of list
WIND_TALK <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com> Date : 18 September
2002 21:22:00 Subject : RE: Safety Fin

>I once made a drag chute when my fin dropped off. I tied my helmet
to a >spare line, and tied that to a rear footstrap. It worked,
sort of, but it >created so much drag that I was catapulted off the
board repeatedly. And >the water friction tore the lining out of
the helmet, which was lost for >eternity to mighty Neptune. Not
really a good solution. > >Your design ought to work, though it
probably will not allow much in the way >of going upwind to happen.
I'd make a stainless steel circle, about 4 >inches in diameter, from
pretty stiff wire, and then make a conical nylon >sock for it.
Ideally, the wire circle should have three eyes on its >perimeter.
Three strong bits of thin rope to attach the wire hoop to a >durable
(!!) swivel connection. This is important! The sock will spin
like >crazy once you start to move. This swivel is on the end of a
rope. This >whole assembly should tuck into a harness or PFD pocket
pretty easily, and >attach to the board by simply tying it to a rear
footstrap. > >Let me know if it works. This has been a gadget I've
been wanting to try, >for years. If it works, I'll want one. > >-
Topher Gayle > >> -----Original Message----- >> From:
wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com >>
[mailto:wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com]On Behalf Of Jim Murdy >>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 1:03 PM >> To: Multiple
recipients of list WIND_TALK >> Subject: Re: Safety Fin >> >> >> I
know I've seen all the suggestions...drag the down haul, tie the >>
harness to the tail for emergency fin fixes.....and have never >>
gotten good enough to have to use them, but.... >> >> The thought
just hit me that some thing like a drag chute or sea >> anchor might
work...... say a small ring of plastic ( to keep >> opening open)
with a swivil/velcro leash to attach to board and then >> a small
parachute like thing attached to the plastic ring....even >> with
embelishments like a bit of foam to float it and a weight on >> the
bottom to position it (keeping ring vertical in water to make >> the
chute open easily) a rig like this could be pretty small and >>
foldable. >> >> Jim Murdy >> >> Kirk Lindstrom wrote: >> >> > I
wonder if we could make a \223safety fin\223 to carry in a pack or
>> inside > our mast or strapped to the boom? > what if > get a 1
ft >> long by 1\223 round piece of plastic that you put a fin screw
into? > >> Then if you bust a fin, you put this rod into the fin
box and screw >> it > in from the top > It would not be a great fin,
but it would be >> resistance > It would ALSO fit inside the water
(camel back) bag I >> often carry... > > It would be fun to try
this \223safety fin\223 out for >> a test.... > > Kirk (I get full
rights if we patent this!) out > > >> Manuel Paunet wrote: > >
>glad to hear you made it safe > > > >it >> seems to me a good thing
to do when this kind of problem occurs > >> >is to ask someone to
get you a new fin. > >even if the fin box is >> damaged, a wobbly
fin would do the trick better. > >(good to know >> what fin box
your board is using) > > > >aloha > > > >manu > > > > > >> > >
>-----Original Message----- > >From: Ken Poulton >>
[mailto:poulton@zonker.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, >>
September 18, 2002 1:13 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list >>
WIND_TALK > >Subject: Ken goes downwind > > > > > > > >Thanks to >>
everyone who was watching and helping me today! > > > >Ken > > > >>
>\223Only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how far
>> one can > >go.\223 > > -- T.S. Eliot > > > > > > >
>============= Tue >> 17 Sep 02 - 3rd - 5.4,4.4/257 (196#) 4:20-8:00
> > > >Too much wind >> for kites as it started gusty and the
channel ramped up to > >30 >> mph! I went out on 5.4 and sailed OPd
for the first hour. This was >> > >great fun - the swell got to 6
feet, very nicely formed, even in >> the > >flood. But eventually,
the wind was too much to handle. I >> had a Mr > >Toad's Wild Ride
back in (whooping all the way) and >> rigged 4.4. > > > >The 4.4
felt great. I was having a fine time >> (and thinking a bit >
>about how to fix the stripped-out second >> screw on my fin). >
>But when I spun out and fell in near the far >> edge of the
channel, > >I found - oops! - no fin! Nada. Bye, bye. >> Gone.
> > > >This was about 6:00. I tried various drag inducers on >> the
tail of the > >board. Kevin came by and helped for a while, as >>
did another guy. Using > >the uphaul on the tail sort of worked - I
>> could get going, but would > >always spin out after about 30
seconds >> and have to set up again. I was > >going towards shore,
but faster >> downwind in the flood. I could see I > >would not get
to the shore >> by sunset. Finally, as I passed Mike (who > >was
the furthest >> downwind) I asked him to go in and call the Coast >
>Guard. I was >> lucky to have just replaced my leaky old wetsuit
with a > >new 5/3 >> at the ASD sale. I decided it was time to also
put on the > >> >neoprene hood I carry for emergencies. Having a
warm suit was good >> > >but the hood on my head really warmed me
up. > > > >Further >> cycles of slogging and spinning out left me
approaching the > >> >bridge pier just west of the shipping channel.
I decided that the >> > >westerly wind and flood tide would carry me
a very long way >> before I got > >to shore, so I climbed up onto
the pier. Once I was >> standing in the > >wooden bumpers, I was
holding my board with the >> uphaul, but I had no way > >to deal
with the rig. So I detached the >> rig and bade it goodbye and >
>pulled the board up and tied it on. >> I think it's just above
high tide, > >but not above the waves. > > >> > >The ladder is
inside the boat bumpers. I had to climb thru and >> jump > >back in
to get to it. Once I climbed up, there was plenty >> of dry space >
>and a place out of the wind. I took out my radio >> and called the
Coast > >Guard. I also put on my flasher, which >> Steve reported
was visible from > >the launch! > > > >A chopper >> showed up only
10 or 20 minutes later. I expected to swim > >out to >> where they
could safely approach, but they surveyed the pier > >and >> placed
their basket on the downwind end. The chopper was dead > >> >steady
in the air - very impressive piloting. I climbed in and >> they >
>raised me up as away we went! What a great ride! > > > >> >They
let me off at the San Carlos airport. I called my wife, Kate, >>
for a > >ride: > > \223Can you give me ride to 3rd Ave?\223 > >
\223Where >> are you?\223 > > \223San Carlos Airport.\223 > >
\223San Carlos Airport?\223 > > >> \223It's where the helicopter
left me.\223 > > \223The helicopter?\223 > > >> \223Yeah, they
picked me up off the bridge.\223 > > \223The bridge?\223 > > >>
\223Yeah, I had a little problem...\223 > > > >And even before she
got >> there, Steve showed up to give me a ride! > >I later
realized I >> might have passed a message thru the Coast Guard >
>radio. > > > >> >And when we arrived at 3rd around 9:00, Dave had
packed up my 5.4 >> and > >was waiting by my car! What a guy! > >
> >So thanks to >> everyone for all the help! What a great bunch of
people. > > > > > >> >Plusses and minuses for the overly
analytical: > > > > -- >> inadequate maintainance (stripped fin
screw) > > + carried hood > > >> + wore a really warm wetsuit > > +
asked for help - at first mostly >> letting others know I am
floundering > > + told Mike to call Coast >> Guard > > + carried
flasher > > ++ carried radio > > - failed to get >> my 50' line out
in time to save my sail > > ++ got myself out of the >> water > > -
but not in the right place > > > > -- > best regards > >> Kirk
Lindstrom > Please Try My Online Store: >>
http://home.netcom.com/~kirk_69/Gifts.html >> >> [V-Card file
jim.murdy.vcf deleted by listprocessor] >> > >

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