X-OldHeader: From MRTischler@aol.com-DeleteThis.com Sat Oct 6 20:06:17 2001 Return-Path: <MRTischler@aol.com-DeleteThis.com> Received: from zonker.labs.agilent.com (root@zonker.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com [130.29.244.184]) by jr.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id UAA24531 for <wind_talk_ls@jr.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 20:06:17 -0700 (PDT) From: MRTischler@aol.com-DeleteThis.com Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1.cos.agilent.com [192.168.148.33]) by zonker.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id UAA29602; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 20:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBC11E25; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 21:06:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from MRTischler@aol.com-DeleteThis.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id 8.129.5a8fb6f (25306); Sat, 6 Oct 2001 23:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <129.5a8fb6f.28f12095@aol.com-DeleteThis.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 23:05:57 EDT Subject: Re: Toyota Sienna vs. Honda Odyssey for windsurfing van? To: rick@cattell.net-DeleteThis.com, jrstudio@home.com-DeleteThis.com, poulton@zonker.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com, wind_talk@zonker.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28
Friends,
I just checked out the Toyota Sienna and the Honda Odyssey. The Toyota won't
handle the boards inside (an 8-6 and a 9-3 both in bags. The seats are too
close together to make it work comfortably and the length is quite tight.
Overall it doesn't really make a good fit, and the Odyssey looks like the way
to go between those two choices for the gear inside.... Looks like Ken's
Previa was the perfect setup.... thanks for everyone inputs, mark.
In a message dated 10/5/01 1:49:59 PM, rick@cattell.net-DeleteThis.com writes:
<< After you go measure the inside, you might want to send a correction to
wind_talk... I'm certain that it's smaller inside, for the reasons that Ken
explains. The Sienna engine is in front, it takes up 2 feet of length.
--------------------
Ken -- thanks,
I too wish the Toyota or Honda had a 4 wheel drive option for ski trips --
bummer. The Sienna is listed as 7 inches longer than the Previa (194" vs.
187")... so I am thinking this might get the needed interior length the
same.... mark.
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From: "Ken Poulton" <poulton@zonker.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>
To: <MRTischler@aol.com-DeleteThis.com>; <jrstudio@home.com-DeleteThis.com>; <rick@cattell.net-DeleteThis.com>
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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Toyota Sienna vs. Honda Odyssey for windsurfing van?
> > JR/Rick -- is the Privia wide enough? If so it seems that the Sienna is
the
> > same width and just a bit shorter -- no? I think my two board should
fit up
> > the center (8-6 and 9-2), sails on left and sleeping room on the run if
I
> > take the rear chairs out? -- Rick, you mentioned that the Sienna wasn't
long
> > enough -- for what length board? thanks! mark.
> >
> > Ken -- you drive a Previa -- have you compared it to a Sienna?
>
> The Sienna puts its engine in front of the driver instead of under the
> driver as in the Previa. This leaves 12-18 inches less interior space
> in the Sienna, and makes it a much less capable windsurf vehicle.
>
> It's a tragedy in car design. The Previa was a truly innovative design
> that greatly increased the capacity of a minivan. But it looks
"different"
> so it never sold well. The Sienna is just another damn Dodge Caravan
> design, albeit built with Toyota quality. And worst of all, there is no
> all-wheel-drive for the Sienna.
>
>
> Ken "can't find a replacement for my '91 Previa" Poulton
> poulton@labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com
>
> "We had to eat bark off the trees and stare into the sun until our
eyeballs
> burst into flames. That's the way things were and we *liked* it."
> -- Grumpy old man, SNL
>
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