RE: SFO voters to decide for entire Bay Area?

From: Jeff Milum (jmilum@saba.com-DeleteThis.com)
Date: Thu May 24 2001 - 09:42:35 PDT

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From: Jeff Milum <jmilum@saba.com-DeleteThis.com>
To: "'wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com'" <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>
Subject: RE: SFO voters to decide for entire Bay Area?
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:42:35 -0700

I think it is important to note that Californians are a minority of
the population currently living in the Bay Area. Most people living
here are not natives, and in fact a large majority of them have
moved here only recently based on the perception that there "was
gold in them hills". I would not count on these people to choose
"fish vs. convenience/growth" as this ballot measure will most
certainly be portrayed by the mainstream media.

-----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Hahn
[mailto:hahn@unetix.com-DeleteThis.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 9:33 AM To:
Multiple recipients of list WIND_TALK Subject: Re: SFO voters to
decide for entire Bay Area?

This is exactly true. Taxation for BART reached (still reaches?)
all the way to Santa Clara County even though we don't have access
to BART. Yet voting for access to the bay, which I do access and
use, would be limited to the city of SF? There's something very
wrong with that.

I agree with Tracy's prediction for the outcome of the vote in SF.
Unfortunately, I think most any popular vote in the region would be
likely to favor filling the bay. There was a somewhat strict
environmental proposition on the ballot many years ago and it lost
by a large margin. Despite the relative progressiveness of
Californians, when it comes to convenience and cost, I don't believe
Californians as a group care all that much about the environment.
It's much easier to take a pro environmental position when the
consequences don't affect you.

-jon (CA native)

Tracy Pierce wrote:

> Why should the city of SF decide this issue? While the people of
SF may > have far more valuable opinions than do the other residents
of the Bay Area, > and while the city of SF owns SFO airport, it's
still NOT their bay!! > > While the idea being sold to you (giving
the people of SF the power to kill > the bay fill via vote) may be
intoxicating, what if that vote goes the other > way? (It would! -
they just want to land on time, and that's how they're > being sold
the bay fill in the first place!) > > Seems to me this is just a
sneaky way to make it look like 'the people' > concerned were
consulted, when actually only those people who stand to make > money
(the city of SF) would be consulted. The very idea of this being >
placed before "the voters" reeks of subterfuge and conspiracy by SF
> powers-that-be vs the Bay Area at large. The issue being sold
onto the SF > ballot is completely a red herring. > > Tracy (have
we figured out who's the enemy yet?) Pierce

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