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The short technical answer to the airport location is that it is located in
an unincorporated area of San Mateo County. Tangentially, the airport
currently does not own all the property that it needs for expansion and would
need to purchase it from the state.
FYI, all property tax from sales at the airport goes to San Mateo County
government. The airport pulls off a certain percentage of revenue from
landing fees, car rental, etc, which I am going to uncover, that goes
directly to the City and County of San Francisco.
Metropolitan Transportation Commission and RAPC have mostly ceremonial duties
and, some planning and some financial control over the airport. The reason
that there is not a regional authority with teeth is that not enough of us
have flexed our political power and demanded it.
The local Cities have not demanded a regional approach for two reasons --
parochialism such that each City is largelly interested in only its own
interests, and secondly, the airport has done a superior job of neutering
their role, by shear force of numbers and by promises that the new expansion
will reduce airport noise.
The argument from the airport about reduced noise is somewhat true -- much
of the noise will be over water. However, depending on how the existing
runways continue to be used, and depending on how much the airport expands
the number of take offs and landings over the next ten years, the noise will
once again return to the Cities.
I am as most of you know, a former Airport Manager (Palm Springs). The CNEL
footprint around the SFO airport will likely not change, and even if it does,
it will be small comfort to know that the jet aircraft noise that wakes you
at 3 AM in the morning, is six miles away and not three miles away. It's
still noise.
I have been paying a lot of attention recently and have come to a rather sad
conclusion -- we throw our experts against their experts and the general
public finds it impossible to make up their collective minds. I learned
this when I worked on Nuclear weapons issues.
To be successful, we need to get passionate. We need to know why in our
heart of hearts we oppose the expansion and its impacts on the Bay.
In late Spring, I intend to take a week off work to deal with this issue and
to visit local politicians, and to educate as many people as I can.
Who is interested in joining me?
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