[Fwd: SFO Says: What's a billion among friends?]

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Dear Member,

In case you missed it there was an interesting article in today's
San Francisco Chronicle about the cost of the proposed runway expansion.
SFO's John Martin has just suggested that the runway plan might now cost over one billion dollars more than initially proposed. This new admission supports what we already know about the airport...
1) $3-4 billion is too much money for a marginal increase in runway
capacity.
2) The airport has credibility problems. These kind of errors ( 50-100
percent)are common for the airport, such as the terminal expansion, for example.
3) SFO is now seriously considering runway plans and configurations
that were never presented before any of their public meetings or scoping hearings that were held during the summer. It may be presumed that these are better for the Bay, but these proposals were never publicly proposed as a viable option before.
If you would like to respond with a letter to the editor you can e-mail it to:
<mailto:chronletters@sfgate.com-DeleteThis> chronletters@sfgate.com.-DeleteThis Or you can
contact the writer directly at <mailto:mccabem@sfgate.com-DeleteThis>
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If you do write a letter we would like to have a copy. Please forward it to us at the e-mail listed above <mailto:alert@savesfbay.org-DeleteThis>
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Thanks,
Carlyle A. Johnston
Grassroots Coordinator
Save The Bay

Here a Billion, There a Billion . . .
SFO official adds $1 billion to runway cost, then says he was joshing
Michael McCabe, Chronicle Staff Writer < mailto:mccabem@sfgate.com-DeleteThis
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Thursday, October 14, 1999
The proposed runway reconfiguration project for San Francisco
International Airport could ultimately cost $3.5 billion, at least $1 billion more than previous estimates, airport director John Martin said at a speech in San Francisco yesterday.
Later in the afternoon, however, Martin said he was only speaking
``tongue in cheek,'' and that his remarks were ``off the cuff.''
``The only estimate we have now is $2.5 billion and that is a very
preliminary number,'' Martin said in a telephone interview. ``Who knows, it could be $3.5 billion, it could be more.''
Martin, who spoke at a Commonwealth Club lunch, also said that a
delegation from his office plans to travel to Japan next week to look at a new runway system based on floating barges.
Airport spokesman Ron Wilson said yesterday planners really have no firm estimate at this point how much a new runway configuration plan will cost.
He said they are investigating three main construction options: dirt
fill, like the existing airport; floating platforms or barge systems; and pile supports.
``When we get into talking about cost estimates, we have to do it with
the caveat that some new dramatic technology like this floating structure the Japanese are building could dramatically increase the cost of building the project,'' Wilson said.
Airport officials contend the project is critically important to
accommodate growth in air travel and a new generation of larger jets,
cut noise in communities surrounding the airport and end chronic
weather-related delays.
Wilson said there are several apparent problems with floating structures that airport planners want to investigate, including the rather important one of whether a structure the size they need will sink to the bottom of the shallow bay.
They are also concerned about how floating structures could be linked to the existing airport and what effect tidal movements would have.
David Lewis, director of the Save San Francisco Bay Association, said he doubts Martin's remarks were tongue in cheek.
``I think it is ridiculous to say that anything John Martin says in
front of the Commonwealth Club is not serious,'' Lewis said. ``Certainly $3.5 billion is a lot of money, but then so is $2 billion for the size of the increase in capacity they are talking about, which is not significant. If SFO didn't have so much money available to it, they would be laughed out of town.''

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