Re: ASD vs Mistral

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Date: Wed Sep 17 1997 - 09:20:22 PDT

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When analyzing durability you have to divide durability into two seperate
categories.

One category is "ding" resistance which is the ability to withstand punctures
when encountering hard objects. These encounters mainly occur while not
sailing (except from ones booms). Mistral and other plastic coated boards are
much stronger than epoxy boards in this respect. If you are not practiced in
getting in and out of the water, and hanlding your board out of the water with
care, it is easy to damage an epoxy board.

Sailing durability is comprised by the ability to withstand heel dents from
sailing, softspots near the foot straps from jibing, and
buckling/cracking/delaming from jumping and chop pounding. In this aspect a
well made epoxy board can be just as durable (maybe more) as the production
boards. I know a lot of experts who have beat the heck out of ASD/Seatrends
and not had any problems.

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Jeff Milum
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Booker Bense wrote:
>
> - As far a durabilty goes, you can have them build a bombproof board
> if you want. But a custom epoxy is never going to be as abuse proof
> as a plastic coated board like the Mistral. You pay for the
> performance.

What is interesting is a friend got a very lightweight Mistral board,
maybe a screamer2, and its nose buckled in half and he isn't a jumper.
He did get a new one after a week. Lb for Lb, it is hard to beat ASD.

For me, it is a hard call. I like ASD for many reasons. If you own one
of their boards and you dent it....you are fairly high in the que to get
it repaired compared to other boards where they won't do it as fast
(makes sense to take care of good customers). For the longest time,
they just wouldn't make a board wide enough to be "fun" for us elephants
(me 220 to 230#) since they usually come out 22" wide or less. Well my
1988 8'8" ChallengeFlex was fun to ride for me because it was so wide.
KenP loves his Tiga 257 since it is even wider and soft where the CFlex
wasn't soft. Anyway, now ASD is experimenting with some VERY wide
designs that are unlike most boards I've seen but look like boards that
I can havae FUN on. (I've always been able to go FAST on their boards
which is fun to a point). If some of these new shapes work out, then
custom will be a yr or more ahead of production and custom will be the
only way to get these shapes....they now are experimenting with a 8'10"
board that is 25" wide, squarish tail and holds a 7.8 sail!

Then ask me about nuken conditions where I take out my 8'8" RKT with a
4.1 and 185 lb guys are on 3.3's and I have a BLAST as long as the lulls
are not too big. That RKT shape is so fast and fun in killer chop, but
it does that at the expense of needing ALOT of wind. I may NEVER
replace that 8'8" for those days....Unless one of these wide shapes with
alot of rocker can get me thru the lulls better....It seemed that when I
was in Maui I could use either a Screamer or a custom 8'8" WaveSlalom
board the guy at the shop insisted I try (boy did he know his stuff!!)
and sail most conditions (4.2 to 6.2). I wish ASD had a board that I
could sail like that 8'8" (I was in Maui in the Spring when it is gusty
20-35 conditions quite often but good waves).

"We think in generalities, we live in detail."
- Alfred North Whitehead

ASD epoxy: 8'8" & 9' RKT & 9'6" no-nose CS, F2 Xantos285
Wt 230#, Ht. 6'0", Usually sail on SF Bay, Cailf.

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