Re: right of way

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Date: Wed Jun 21 1995 - 08:28:22 PDT

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Subject: Re: right of way

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PAULD brings up right of way during wavesailing. There seems to be some
confusion on this subject. Who has the answers?

There seems to be 2 interpretations.

1. Person going out the break has right of way over person coming in. Period.

2. Person going out has right of way UNLESS person coming in is actively
riding the face of a wave. This second definition I have heard on multiple
occasions. However it would seem to be problematic since usually both the
person going out and coming in are going to be aiming for the clean part of a
face (especially on the Wadell double close outs).

Does there seem to be any concensus among people you know or have
"encountered"?

Also related is the question of who owns a wave. Wavesailors have tried to
define ownership the same way surfers do - first on the wave/whoever is
"highest" on the wave. However this falls apart since we have power and can
get "on" waves long before they are breaking. Does the person who babysits a
swell from the outside to the inside own the wave since they were "on" it
first? Or can somebody snap jibe right onto the swell closer in and then
claim it over a person who has been sailing on top of it? Additionally the
chatoic breaking of waves at Wadell makes it very hard to identify who is
"higher" on the wave, since they seem to break at a different spot each time.

I haven't actually exchanged words yet with anyone, but I have been involved
in some "stinkeye" sessions so far and would like to know when I am in the
right.

Thanks.

Jeff Milum
Manager DMD New England Region
415-506-0575

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Subject: Wave Board -Reply

>>> Paul Delzio <pauld@delzio.corp.sgi.com-DeleteThis> 06/20/95 02:12pm >>>
OK, now that most of the discussion on the Universal Joint is done....I
would like to get some waveboard help..and a waveboard.

I am 185lbs, advanced sailor, ...
Can anyone (Cristi) give some advise on a waveboard that would :
o fit into my budget
Here are prices I've seen on used boards:
1 year old custom epoxy (ASD, Stretch etc): $600-900
3year+ assymetricals (polyester resin): $150-350

o provide a good learning board for waves
Get a floaty wave board that's either bulletproof, or easy to repair.

o provide enough flotation
It's safer to err on the floaty side, especially when learning. It makes it
much easier getting out (through the break), especially in marginal wind.

o provide width and rocker for the waves
Get a wave board, not a "bump and jump" or "convertible" design.

o not get laughed at at Scotts,
Until I get a new board, I'm riding assymetricals, which are somewhat
dated and "out". I've never been laughed at (and I wouldn't care
anyway).

... not get rammed at Davenport.
Follow the right of way rules of wavesailing, and sail defensively. Even
then, you'll have problems now and then, typically involving whose wave
it is. I've had a few incidents this year, no collisions, just yelling at each
other. Some sailors I know won't sail Davenport because everyone's
sailing the same break, and it can get crowded on weekends. I guess
you could go to Waddell on a weekday and sail upwind of the crowds to
avoid this.

Does any one have such a board in their quiver?
Get a relatively floaty wave board, in the latest design you can afford. I
learned on assymetricals, but you can probably learn quicker on a newer
design. Regardless of what board your on, if you put in the time, you'll
learn. Just imagine what kind of equipment Robby had when he learned.
They didn't even have assymetricals yet!

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